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GAFCON and Sydney

The Sydney Morning Herald carries a report by David Marr titled The archbishop says No. It starts out:

The Anglican Church faces a modern Great Schism, with gay-tolerant Christians on one side and radical “Bible-believers” on the other. And at the forefront of the hardliners is Australia’s outspoken evangelist Peter Jensen.

Pilgrims to the mount of olives late this month may be startled to see a couple of hundred Anglican divines kitted out in purple toiling up the slope. Most of the faces will be black. Back home these men are princes of the church; their followers run into tens of millions. But somewhere among the bishops, dressed incongruously in civvies, will be the humble, smiling face of Peter Jensen, the Archbishop of Sydney.

What’s afoot in Jerusalem is the destruction of the Anglican Communion, the worldwide church loosely aligned to the Archbishop of Canterbury. It spread with the empire and has so far survived, despite all its contradictions, for about 450 years, guided by the tart good sense of its founding monarch, Elizabeth I: “There is only one Jesus Christ and all the rest is a dispute over trifles…”

And it ends with this:

…The Sydney bishops had still not made up their minds to boycott Lambeth after four weeks of “agonising and struggle” – the words of Jensen’s media officer Russell Powell – when Akinola announced their decision for them in far-off Lagos, telling a press conference he was not going to Lambeth – and nor were the bishops of Uganda, Rwanda and Sydney.

Jensen scrambled. He rang the Archbishop of Canterbury’s office to say the Sydney bishops were not coming. At some point the letter was signed and sent. Then Jensen made the decision public. But senior sources in the church say two bishops remain deeply troubled: “They were told to like it or lump it.” My calls to those men were flick-passed to Jensen’s office. Powell informed me that everyone, including Jensen, was upset not to be going. “But the bishops are gladly united in the decision that has been taken.”

Jensen drove all these big decisions. Only when they were signed and sealed did he take them to the Standing Committee of his synod – the parliament of his diocese – where they were rubber-stamped by the clergy and laity. Was that the right way round? “Some would think it a failure of leadership to do it any other way,” answers Powell. The Standing Committee gave its support and “thanks to God for the unreserved commitment to biblical teaching of the Archbishop and his Bishops.”

Jensen speaks of the old Anglican Communion in the past tense. As far as he’s concerned, it’s finished. Lambeth can go on quarrelling about homosexuality, but the Archbishop of Sydney expects the subject will hardly be mentioned at GAFCON. That’s in the past. It is, after all, a bond between them. “To my mind we are just living in a new age. We’re in a different sort of organisation. Now it’s exploring the possibilities of this different organisation that is now before us.” All the way from Westminster Abbey comes the sound of Queen Elizabeth I spinning in her tomb.

The article is very long but well worth reading in full.

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JCF
JCF
16 years ago

Good to see that the article put “’Bible-believers’” in quotation marks. But perhaps they could have put “humble”, re Peter Jensen, in quotation marks as well?

Counterlight
Counterlight
16 years ago

Reading this, 2 things come to mind; the old Soviet phrase “monolithic unity,” and a quote from that wise old Jewish sage Mel Brooks, “It’s good to be the king.”

christopher+
christopher+
16 years ago

“Jensen speaks of the old Anglican Communion in the past tense. As far as he’s concerned, it’s finished. Lambeth can go on quarelling about homosexuality, but the Archbishop of Sydney expects the subject will hardly be mentioned at GAFCON.” Hardly be mentioned? Jensen and Co. are holding this conference precisely BECAUSE of homosexuality, or, more precisely still, because of their firm opposition to it and their distress that the entire Anglican world does not share their obsession with gay sex. All the rest is an attempted diversion through which the rest of the world – both inside and outside the… Read more »

Ford Elms
Ford Elms
16 years ago

“He puts himself among the true “orthodox”” He can put himself where he likes, he’s not orthodox. “those who will come to terms with their culture at the expense of Biblical authority and those who won’t.” “ Deliberate misrepresentation. “But if they do do that thing, then their freedom frees us as well.”” Point taken. “The archbishop believes all mysteries can be explained in big, clear paragraphs.” A supposition by the interviewer, but one I agree with. Mysteries properly ought not to be explained. “”One of the gravest weaknesses of contemporary Christianity,” he declared a few weeks later, “is the… Read more »

L Roberts
L Roberts
16 years ago

‘…his humble, smiling face in the olive bushes’

Hagiograpy or what ?

Ford Elms
Ford Elms
16 years ago

christopher+, in all honesty, I agree with them when they say it is about more than that. These are people who have chafed through liturgical reform, women’s ordination, and the reimaging of Christianity that started with Vatican 2 in Rome and then spread out. They are very concerned at the loss of the old power structures, the loss of the prestige they feel Christianity should have society’s moral arbiter, and change in general. Yes, they have a deep seated homophobia and a strong resistance to seeing it in themselves or finding out why it is so obvious to others. But… Read more »

drdanfee
drdanfee
16 years ago

This Aussie article is as clear and focused as much else that I have bumped into lately in the Aussie media about worldwide Anglicanism and conservative realignment. I love the clarity about Jensen and Company having no connect with empirical data concerning queer folks, no matter what. This puts their flat earth readings of the scriptures in what appears to be a safe and enduringly-sealed bubble, completely free from and utterly unchallenged by the building and rather solid competency data. Nor can such realignment views be troubled by any data which would contradict their pat claims that celibacy automatically makes… Read more »

Robert Ian Williams
Robert Ian Williams
16 years ago

Sydney has in its baggage stored in the GAFCON hold a nasty time bomb called lay presidency. If Iker or Schofield were genuine Anglo-catholics they would not get on board. They do so at their own peril.

The GAFCONIANS look so strong and purposeful, but underneath there are serious flaws, which will come to light as the ship slips away.

Merseymike
Merseymike
16 years ago

The puppet-master speaks!

It does need to be pointed out that whilst he crows about the success of the church in Sydney, the vast majority of Sydneysiders do not attend church at all, and Sydney is one of the world’s gayest cities.

So, what impact is he really having?

Leonardo Ricardo
Leonardo Ricardo
16 years ago

Oh Joy!

Bishop Jensen LOVES the Anglican Church of Australia and wouldn’t want to harm it even though, as he mentioned, it would be virtually impossible, constitutionally speaking that is, for him to do so…what a noble guy, so now he’s off to Gafcon to attempt to dismember the Church and The Anglican Communion instead.

With beloved ones who think/reason like +Jensen, it’s hard to imagine being subjected to any more of Gods WRATH than the Archbiship of Sydney ladles out.

Bob In PA
Bob In PA
16 years ago

I agree with Robert. I understand that Jenson believes/proposed that you don’t need an ordained priest to celebrate holy communion. Most Anglo-Catholics would fine this most inproper. My question is why are these people so afraid of gays? You know you don’t catch it by being in the same room or by touching. It’s not a disease! Something I saw on PEP’s site. We don’t worship the bible but the Triune God. I’m afraid of folks who see the only revelation of God in a book. What we’re seeing is a realignment in Christianity with Progressives on one side and… Read more »

Robert Ian Williams
Robert Ian Williams
16 years ago

Ford if your not under the Law ( and I would agree you are not uder the Jewish ceremonial law) are you not still under the law of the Ten Commandments?

Father Ron Smith
16 years ago

What did I tell you about Mr. Jensen? It is well known in the Souther Hemisphere that he is out to quit the Anglican Communion. One would hardly be suprised to see him doing a ‘Northender’ in his collar and tie – no respect for the majesty of the Liturgy. None, either, for the dignity of women and celibate men in the sanctuary. His non-conformity has long been a hallmark of the hegemony rampant in his rule of the Diocese of Sydney, and a reproach to those who disagree with his fundamentalist approach to the Gospel content of the Scriptures.… Read more »

Martin Reynolds
16 years ago

The realignment of the Anglican Communion under two (at least) separate leaderships will obviously be making a couple of large schismatic leaps this summer.

The power play for the Gafconites is to convince those Global South churches that are signed up to the anti-gay agenda but are not happy with the power politics of Sydney Uganda and Nigeria that they need to jump ship.

As many as 11 national churches may be persuadable.

Some see the hand of Rome doing some pushing in certain places, that would not surprise me in the least.

Lapinbizarre
Lapinbizarre
16 years ago

Irony,or what? L. Roberts. David Marr is not an inexperienced journalist.

BIGDAN
BIGDAN
16 years ago

What is wrong with the Anglican Communion?

On the one hand we have the liberals (like most of the commenters here) who have convinced themselves that any evangelical is by definition a bigoted fundamentalist. On the other hand we have the evangelicals who have convinced themselves that the liberals don’t even believe in God any more.

But one thing I will say: any bishop who is even considering going to GAFCON, I plead with you that you don’t – you will not help anything.

Ford Elms
Ford Elms
16 years ago

“are you not still under the law of the Ten Commandments?”

“Under” in what sense? “Ceremonial”, “moral”, what difference? Of course freedom from Law is not freedom to sin, but it is freedom to consider behaviour pleasing to God as something one does because one is on God’s side, as opposed to continued fretting about the great risk of God’s wrath at some infraction. Which one did I break this time?

Ford Elms
Ford Elms
16 years ago

“Some see the hand of Rome doing some pushing in certain places, that would not surprise me in the least.”

That comes our of left field! Is there anything specific? if true, it would be the supreme irony to have people like Jensen actually being led or pushed in some sense by Rome!

Ford elms
Ford elms
16 years ago

“On the one hand we have the liberals (like most of the commenters here) who have convinced themselves that any evangelical is by definition a bigoted fundamentalist.”

Guilty. It is more complex than that, but a complexity of scornful ideas are still just scornful ideas. Now, fixing this is another matter. It certainly needs fixing, all the same.

drdanfee
drdanfee
16 years ago

If there is a behind the scenes Roman interest in all these shenanigans – a big if? – surely three obvious gains or hopes for gain come to mind. First, diminishing the big tent global reach of existing Anglicanisms across its fellowship of provincial churches would unsettle that witness of Reformation, alternative to both Calvin and Luther. Not a bad touch from certain conservative angles of view, upset with the strange big tent oddities of English Reformation. Second, on the off-hand that realignment could sweep the field as it so loudly claims – not least by stealing property and money… Read more »

Robert Ian Williams
Robert Ian Williams
16 years ago

A Roman conspiracy, Martyn? Thinking like that you may be closer to Archbishop Jensen than you think!

Malcolm+
16 years ago

On what canonical or scriptural basis does the Archbishop of Sydney refuse to license unmarried clergy?

Gays or women, I can at least follow the reasoning whether I agree or not.

But why the discrimination against single men?

Or does he believe that all bachelor priests are either poofters or papists?

cryptogram
cryptogram
16 years ago

Ah, the final irony – the work of the crypto-Jesuits being done by the Jensenists.

Robert Ian Williams
Robert Ian Williams
16 years ago

The tragedy of GAFCON is that it transgresses the Commandment, ” You shall not bear false witness.” In the holy City of Jerusalem ( from whence camme the true Gospel)these men and women will be pretending that they are ” orthodox Biblical” Chritisians. They do not agree on the very meaning of the Gospel and Peter jensen believes that conversion is not water baptism or that the Eucharist is the sacred body of the Lord. They will claim to defend marriage and yet they cannot agree what marriage is…whether it is a sacrament, or an indissoluable union or not. Yet… Read more »

Ford Elms
Ford Elms
16 years ago

“Or does he believe that all bachelor priests are either poofters or papists?”

Bingo!
And members of neither group are Christians.

Robert Ian Williams
Robert Ian Williams
16 years ago

I can’t believe Sydney does not ordain bachelors or widowers. The thirty nine articles, state that one should folow ones call in life , to marry or not to marry.

John Stott and a host of other evangelicals would not be welcome. This has to be a mistake?

JPM
JPM
16 years ago

Re: Jensen and unmarried clergy, does anyone else ever get the sense that “orthodox” theology is based more on such 1950s sitcoms as “Father Knows Best” and “Leave It to Beaver” than on scripture or church tradition?

Tim
Tim
16 years ago

Bob: “My question is why are these people so afraid of gays? You know you don’t catch it by being in the same room or by touching. It’s not a disease!” People like me who oppose the ordination of homosexuals don’t fear them- but rather fear God. To allow openly practicing homosexuals to hold leadership positions in any church is against the clear teaching of God’s word to us in the Bible. Bob, some of my closest friends are homosexuals. Likewise, Jesus befriended sinners- but did he put them in leadership positions in his Church if they didn’t repent? Of… Read more »

Cheryl Va.
16 years ago

Maybe they can’t accept bachelor priests, because they are possibly closet celibate gays?

Perhaps then we should make it only married men with proven paternity to their children. Otherwise we might have gays marrying women and pretending to be their husbands whilst not actually servicing them.

That will solve the problem of gays. But what about bisexuals, or infertile couples (e.g. where the wife is an unknown testosterone female)?

Robert Ian Williams
Robert Ian Williams
16 years ago

Tim, What was the unanimous exegesis of the Biblical texts for the first fifteen hundred years? …it was that baptism was regenerative ( the way to be born again) and that the Eucharist was the body , blood , soul and divinity of our Saviour. That is why in the Nicene Creed, baptism is acknowledged as the means of the remission of sins. The thief on the cross was coverd by baptism of desire. Unless a man is born of WATER and the spirit he cannot enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Sydney Christianity is not authentic and is as novel… Read more »

Ford Elms
Ford Elms
16 years ago

Robert, this will not be productive. Whatever else modern Western Evangelical Protestantism is, it cannot claim to be orthodox. You can even give them the out that they may be right, but that still doesn’t make them orthodox, much less traditional, except so far as 500 years is traditional. The Reformation represented a far more radical innovation in the Church than anything TEC or the evil “liberal” pagans are doing now. It changed the traditional understanding of authority, the role of Scripture, the sacraments and their role in the life of the Church and the individual, the nature of redemption,… Read more »

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