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Lambeth: Church Times news reports

Updated 5.30 pm with items from Friday:

Covenant is ‘future-directed’ says Gomez by Paul Handley

The sexuality section of the draft ‘Reflections’ document

Feeling stuffed before the final meal

Ugandan Primate criticises Dr Williams

In the paper today:
Many of these are subscriber-only, but here is what you can read now:

Group proposes standstill to ease Anglican tensions

Surmise, frustration, and interest greet proposals

Chief Rabbi pleads with Communion to stay one despite differences

Bishops given frank talk on rape and beatings

See also this list here.

And the CT blog has The indaba groups talk about sex

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john
john
16 years ago

What a wonderful endorsement from Jonathan Sacks.

The world needs the Anglican Church! How good it is to be reminded of it by outsiders.

Erika Baker
Erika Baker
16 years ago

John
there is no Anglican church, there is an Anglican Communion which consists of a number of national churches. A lot of our problems would be less severe if people could understand that.

Having said that, Jonathan Sacks is outstanding as always.

choirboyfromhell
choirboyfromhell
16 years ago

So we LGBT people promise not get married, not to ask for promotions within the “church”, hide our love and desires, go back into the closet, and live a Godly, Righteous, and Sober life composed of deception and lies, “they’ll” promise not to steal our parishes. Oh, and we might get to be on half good terms with the big kid on the block and the other bully next door to some of our neighborhoods. I can now see why people like Merseymike have their views, as what we are calling the church is certainly psychologically sick and rapidly becoming… Read more »

Treebeard
Treebeard
16 years ago

You got it in one ! ‘So we LGBT people promise not get married, not to ask for promotions within the “church”, hide our love and desires, go back into the closet, and live a Godly, Righteous, and Sober life composed of deception and lies, “they’ll” promise not to steal our parishes. Oh, and we might get to be on half good terms with the big kid on the block and the other bully next door to some of our neighborhoods. I can now see why people like Merseymike have their views, as what we are calling the church is… Read more »

john
john
16 years ago

Erika,

When I said ‘church’, I was equivocating between what goes on in England and the larger thing. Sacks was too, I think. But sorry if I was parochial: I think the whole thing is wonderful.

Choirboy: I don’t think this is the way to read it. The overwhelming drive was to keep the whole thing going – and not damn TEC or liberals. I think you should feel protected. You certainly will be by me.

Leonardo Ricardo
16 years ago

“They also include reaffirming Resolution 1.10 from the 1998 Lambeth Conference, and continuing ongoing dialogue”

Oh, they wish to “reaffirm” resolution 1.10 (the same 1.10 resolution the Archbishop of Canterbury refused for Bishops to review at the Conference)…this stuff looks like it was written and directed by Martyn Minns via Peter Akinola!

JPM
JPM
16 years ago

>>>So we LGBT people promise not get married, not to ask for promotions within the “church”, hide our love and desires, go back into the closet, and live a Godly, Righteous, and Sober life composed of deception and lies, “they’ll” promise not to steal our parishes.

Actually, they won’t even do that: Nzimbi has already said that he will not stop his piracy, and only a fool would believe that Akinola and the others will give back their stolen parishes.

The separatists have already, well, separated. Everyone but Rowan can see it.

drdanfee
drdanfee
16 years ago

I get how much weight and heavy hope obtains among those who just wish we could stop all the shifts and changes. I just do not really think stopping is really possible. How do you put a flat earth back in the Copernicus package? Not one of the vigorous conservative belivers, say, over at StandFirm, FiF, Reform or others seems to have any marked intention of slowing down much in their rabid assaults on education, the human sciences, rationality, and all things touched with dissenting modernity. The message I hear is a rapid-beating heart in love with turning back some… Read more »

Leonardo Ricardo
16 years ago

I keep thinking the Archbishop of Canterbury thinks his actions are subtle…the guy is running out of bad tricks and everyone knows it but may struggle on anyway…snore!

Father Ron Smith
Father Ron Smith
16 years ago

Does the Windsor Continuation Group realise how catastrophic it would be for the Church to re-affirm the 1998 Lambeth Resolution 1.10, which effectively declared homosexuality to be against the natural order of Creation? To reiterate that opinion, in the face of new evidence of the possibility of genetic factors which influence human sexual preference, is to discourage many Baptised and Confirmed members of the anglcian Communion, who looked forward to some sort of encouragement from Lambeth 2008. This would seem to me to reinforce the notion that the Church has become irrelevant to the real needs of the community it… Read more »

Göran Koch-Swahne
16 years ago

No, they don’t.

Erika Baker
Erika Baker
16 years ago

“They also include reaffirming Resolution 1.10 from the 1998 Lambeth Conference, and continuing ongoing dialogue”

Continuing ongoing dialogue? Have I missed something?

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