What a realistic article by Kelvin Holdsworth. I read it. There’s five minutes of my life I’d not trade for most anything.
Nathaniel Brown
9 years ago
What an excellent article by Kelvin Holdsworth; should be mandatory reading.
Rod Gillis
9 years ago
@ Leonardo Ricardo and Nathaniel Brown. I took your advice and read Kelvin Holdsworth’s article. I gave it a pass this morning, probably because the title didn’t get my attention. Good article, although it took me longer than five minutes to read it. Grateful I didn’t need Facebook to access it. I’ve read his blog on occasion, but learned something more about him by reading this. Gutsy guy. I found the Tim Schenck piece annoying (pun intended) because (1) I’m not into Facebook and (2) it reminded me of what I call the unwritten ordination vow i.e. will you be… Read more »
ExRevd
9 years ago
Significant that the Bishop of Swindon translates aletheia as “reality” rather than “truth”. It’s truth that will set God’s people free, all of them. But “Reality”? That rather depends whose reality we are talking about.
It’s true that a lot of foolishness goes on in the wonderful world of Facebook. But as a pastor in 2015 I don’t have the luxury of refusing to use it. For many of my parishioners, it’s their communication medium of choice. They left email behind a long time ago.
Rod Gillis
9 years ago
@ Tim Chesterton, “as a pastor in 2015 I don’t have the luxury of refusing to use it.” As a retired pastor, I do. The ancient myths offer a cautionary tale on this matter, don’t you find? “as [Narcissus] cast himself down, exhausted, on the grassy verge to slake his thirst, he fell in love with his reflection.” (trans.by Robert Graves) What you say about email is correct. In fact, in terms of social media in general,some days I think we might be better off with a Trappist approach to life, i.e. can the chatter, enjoy a beverage, and speak… Read more »
When my generation wanted to do a study/discussion thing, we organized a workshop, study group etc, and met face to face.
My youngest daughter is 32. When her generation wants to do that, they first start a conversation on social media. Then, if there’s enough interest, someone says ‘Let’s have a metope and talk some more about this’.
Talk about Plato and Narcissus all you want. That’s the reality I live in.
John
9 years ago
Punchy, challenging talk by Kevin Holdsworth. His attacks on hypocritical ‘liberals’ were well-aimed, always so long as ‘liberals’ meant soi-disant ‘liberal’ BISHOPS, whom I quite agree there is little reason to respect. My personal conscience in this area is reasonably clear.
Rod gillis
9 years ago
@ Tim Chesterton, “Talk about Plato and Narcissus all you want. That’s the reality I live in.” Well, Tim, I hardly expect we’ll go back to carrier pigeons. Surely, you must have picked up that my comments were partly tongue in cheek. However, the tension between theoria and praxis remains. Use of a popular medium does not obviate a critical appraisal of the same. Mythology offers us some insights, no? We are in the midst of a federal election in Canada. I’ve lost count of how many candidates, from various parties, have been kicked off their party’s ticket because someone… Read more »
The Bishop of Swindon gives us a rare insight into the training given to the select talent pool and one word seems to dominate his report – ANXIETY. “learning anxiety” “organisational anxiety” “survival anxiety”. Wise counsel, as ever, comes from the Bishop of Chelmsford – an anxious Church is an unattractive Church. Even wiser advice is to be found in the Epistle to the Philippians (4:6)”Be anxious for nothing but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.”
What an annoying article by Tim Schnenck. I read it. There’s two minutes of my life I’ll never get back.
What a realistic article by Kelvin Holdsworth. I read it. There’s five minutes of my life I’d not trade for most anything.
What an excellent article by Kelvin Holdsworth; should be mandatory reading.
@ Leonardo Ricardo and Nathaniel Brown. I took your advice and read Kelvin Holdsworth’s article. I gave it a pass this morning, probably because the title didn’t get my attention. Good article, although it took me longer than five minutes to read it. Grateful I didn’t need Facebook to access it. I’ve read his blog on occasion, but learned something more about him by reading this. Gutsy guy. I found the Tim Schenck piece annoying (pun intended) because (1) I’m not into Facebook and (2) it reminded me of what I call the unwritten ordination vow i.e. will you be… Read more »
Significant that the Bishop of Swindon translates aletheia as “reality” rather than “truth”. It’s truth that will set God’s people free, all of them. But “Reality”? That rather depends whose reality we are talking about.
Rod – What’s Facebook? 🙂
It’s true that a lot of foolishness goes on in the wonderful world of Facebook. But as a pastor in 2015 I don’t have the luxury of refusing to use it. For many of my parishioners, it’s their communication medium of choice. They left email behind a long time ago.
@ Tim Chesterton, “as a pastor in 2015 I don’t have the luxury of refusing to use it.” As a retired pastor, I do. The ancient myths offer a cautionary tale on this matter, don’t you find? “as [Narcissus] cast himself down, exhausted, on the grassy verge to slake his thirst, he fell in love with his reflection.” (trans.by Robert Graves) What you say about email is correct. In fact, in terms of social media in general,some days I think we might be better off with a Trappist approach to life, i.e. can the chatter, enjoy a beverage, and speak… Read more »
Rod: here’s one example.
When my generation wanted to do a study/discussion thing, we organized a workshop, study group etc, and met face to face.
My youngest daughter is 32. When her generation wants to do that, they first start a conversation on social media. Then, if there’s enough interest, someone says ‘Let’s have a metope and talk some more about this’.
Talk about Plato and Narcissus all you want. That’s the reality I live in.
Punchy, challenging talk by Kevin Holdsworth. His attacks on hypocritical ‘liberals’ were well-aimed, always so long as ‘liberals’ meant soi-disant ‘liberal’ BISHOPS, whom I quite agree there is little reason to respect. My personal conscience in this area is reasonably clear.
@ Tim Chesterton, “Talk about Plato and Narcissus all you want. That’s the reality I live in.” Well, Tim, I hardly expect we’ll go back to carrier pigeons. Surely, you must have picked up that my comments were partly tongue in cheek. However, the tension between theoria and praxis remains. Use of a popular medium does not obviate a critical appraisal of the same. Mythology offers us some insights, no? We are in the midst of a federal election in Canada. I’ve lost count of how many candidates, from various parties, have been kicked off their party’s ticket because someone… Read more »
The Bishop of Swindon gives us a rare insight into the training given to the select talent pool and one word seems to dominate his report – ANXIETY. “learning anxiety” “organisational anxiety” “survival anxiety”. Wise counsel, as ever, comes from the Bishop of Chelmsford – an anxious Church is an unattractive Church. Even wiser advice is to be found in the Epistle to the Philippians (4:6)”Be anxious for nothing but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.”