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Archbishop of Canterbury’s resignation date confirmed

The statement below was issued by Lambeth Palace today.

Statement from Lambeth Palace
04/12/2024

With the gracious agreement of HM The King, Archbishop Justin’s last day in post as the Archbishop of Canterbury will be on the Feast of the Epiphany, 6th January 2025. From that date, his primatial functions will be delegated, mainly to the Archbishop of York, his metropolitan functions to the Bishop of London and his diocesan functions to the Bishop of Dover.

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RevJohnSmallwood
RevJohnSmallwood
1 day ago

This is more nuanced than the previous, no doubt extempore statement. What if the ++ of York ‘steps back’ in the mean time? Has there been a time where there was been no Primate of England and no Primate of All England?

Jo B
Jo B
Reply to  RevJohnSmallwood
1 day ago

Well there was a brief period in the mid 17th century where both sees were vacant.

Jonathan Jamal
Jonathan Jamal
Reply to  RevJohnSmallwood
1 day ago

I think during the Cromwellian Period when all Anglican Worship was banned in Britain and the Church of England was a proscribed Church under Cromwell. Jonathan

Simon Kershaw
Reply to  Jonathan Jamal
1 day ago

Being pedantic — the Church of England was not banned or proscribed during the Cromwellian period. Rather, episcopacy was abolished, and the Book of Common Prayer replaced. Episcopacy and the BCP were restored with the return of Charles II. But the Church of England continued through the period — many of the same incumbents continued in office for example.

Jo B
Jo B
Reply to  Simon Kershaw
23 hours ago

Bray, it seems, has rarely been short of vicars.

Simon Kershaw
Reply to  Jo B
20 hours ago

And that isn’t necessarily a bad thing. The flock still need to be pastored. And if one thought that bishops were for the bene esse of the Church, rather than of the esse, then epsicopacy might not be a bridge to die on.

Jo B
Jo B
Reply to  Simon Kershaw
16 hours ago

Good Anglican that I am, I’m inclined to think that the church needs both the stalwart defenders of principle and the flexible pastoralists.

Jonathan Jamal
Jonathan Jamal
1 day ago

I expect regardless of the circumstances that have led to the Resignation of Justin Welby as Archbishop of Canterbury, given the way the Church of England does things, the Diocese of Canterbury or the Dean and Chapter or both will want to acknowledge his early Retirement and time in office and Service with some Kind of Liturgical Farewell and Presentation, whether that involves him appearing Vested and Robed at Evensong or a Eucharist on the Eve of his Retirement and formally laying down the Diocesan Crozier on the High Altar of the Cathedral, and mark his exit in a Gracious… Read more »

Simon Bravery
Simon Bravery
Reply to  Jonathan Jamal
1 day ago

I would imagine he would want to spend as much time as possible at his house in France. He will as I understand it be limited to 180 days a Year I can’t see him getting either a peerage or PTO.

Anglican Priest
Anglican Priest
Reply to  Simon Bravery
21 hours ago

Surely if he wants to stay longer, he can get a visa. Unless the problem is from the side of the UK. My wife and I lived in France annually for five years, with a visa for that.

Tony Harris
Tony Harris
Reply to  Jonathan Jamal
1 day ago

Justin Welby is not worthy of a liturgical farewell of any fashion in the Cathedral. He should just retire quietly.

Fr Dexter Bracey
Fr Dexter Bracey
Reply to  Tony Harris
19 hours ago

I could never be described as one of Justin Welby’s greatest fans, but I do think you’re being a bit harsh. Even Tim Dakin had a valedictory Evensong.

Alwyn Hall
Alwyn Hall
Reply to  Fr Dexter Bracey
14 hours ago

Which Tim Dakin then took over in a nauseatingly arrogant fashion.

Andy
Andy
Reply to  Fr Dexter Bracey
13 hours ago

and, regarding future public ministry, +Tim prayed the Methodist Covenant Prayer as his final liturgical act after laying down his crozier: I am no longer my own but yours. Put me to what you will, rank me with whom you will; put me to doing, put me to suffering; let me be employed for you or laid aside for you, exalted for you or brought low for you; let me be full, let me be empty, let me have all things, let me have nothing; I freely and wholeheartedly yield all things to your pleasure and disposal. And now, glorious and… Read more »

Alwyn Hall
Alwyn Hall
Reply to  Andy
10 hours ago

He was not meant to do this. He was meant to lay down his crozier silently. Instead he prayed this prayer, his voice seemingly overwhelmed with emotion, but then saying in his ordinary voice, “I am going to finish”, before carrying on with the emoting. Only he will know if it was genuine, but it came across as narcissistic, self-serving and arrogant – which is a pretty accurate description of his tenure in the office of Bishop of Winchester

Clifford Jones
Clifford Jones
1 day ago

I expect that the Bishop of London will consecrate the two new suffragans for Oxford and the new suffragan for Europe together.

Kate Keates
Kate Keates
1 day ago

Beyond the liturgical, does anyone believe that the Archbishop of Canterbury does much over the Christmas period? So is there any genuine impediment to an earlier date? I would like to have seen a date this side of Christmas.

Tony Harris
Tony Harris
Reply to  Kate Keates
1 day ago

Totally agree.

James
James
Reply to  Kate Keates
1 day ago

Does the ABC still do a TV new year message to the nation? If so that could be a tricky moment, though not totally without opportunity for penitence and renewal.

Wandering minstrel
Wandering minstrel
Reply to  James
23 hours ago

It’s already been confirmed that this won’t happen.

FrDavid H
FrDavid H
Reply to  James
22 hours ago

Welby won’t be conducting public Christmas services but spending time with his family, according to the i paper

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